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I think this page should be moved to Axle because a yo-yo never has more than one axle. --Wilfred (talk|contribs) 07:40, 9 March 2006 (PST)

[edit] Transaxles/ball bearings definition

• Can we please clarify the difference between a ball bearing and a transaxle. A ball bearing is an inner and outer race with balls inbetween to reduce friction. A transaxle means a sleeve around the axle which is typically oiled to reduce friction when spinning. Therefore there is no such thing as a ball bearing transaxle. --Wilfred 05:45, 7 Feb 2006 (PST)

• The way I often hear it used is that a trnasaxle yo-yo is any yo-yo where the surface of the axle rotates independently of the yo-yo body. This can be achieved by both, ball bearings and friction bearings. I think you are right that there should be some kind of better distinction between the two as the physical characteristics of the two bearing types differ significantly. BTW, --HB 08:04, 7 Feb 2006 (PST)

• Ball bearings and transaxles - I can't think of another definition. I posted this on the coffee machine as I wanted a wiki-wide agreement on the definitions. Transaxles came first, response systems had to be designed before the first ball bearing (a Tom Kuhn AFAIK) yo-yo could be created that could return.--Wilfred 08:14, 7 Feb 2006 (PST)

• • As a side note: iirc ball bearings were first (SBII), sleeved friction bearings were later designed as a cheap alternative and introduced with the Yomega Fireball. --HB 08:39, 7 Feb 2006 (PST)

• A wiki-wide agreement would be nice. :) Personally I do not like the term transaxle as it is an artificial word borrowed from automobile engineering where it is a composite of "transmission" and "axle". My guess is that is was taken from there because it sounds cool. My preference is to use sleeve bearing and ball bearing in this wiki. Funny coincidence that in the first version of the Glossary (that I wrote) there are entries for "sleeve" and "ball bearing", but none for transaxle. ;-) --HB 08:39, 7 Feb 2006 (PST)

• I've researched this a little, and come up with these websites: [1] and [2]. These seem to say that a transaxle is the same as a sleeve bearing. --Wilfred 08:24, 8 Feb 2006 (PST)

• Well, to quote from the second link: "...ball bearing transaxles sleep longer than sleeve transaxles." This would support my perception, that transaxle is used as a generic term for both, sleeved and ball bearing transaxles. --HB 00:41, 9 Feb 2006 (PST)

• • OK then, I'm keen just to deal with the issue now. I'm happy to have 'sleeve bearing' and 'ball bearing' as official wiki terms. I'd still like to remove the use of 'ball bearing transaxle' as it confuses people (like me!). --Wilfred 08:31, 9 Feb 2006 (PST)

• Sleeve bearing and ball bearing sound like a good idea to me. Let's use that as a standard. --HB 09:00, 9 Feb 2006 (PST)